Need help again: Windows Neutron - how to "load/save" EQ settings XML file

[DSperber]

Thank you very much for this update info.

However the MS Store doesn't show that my installed version needs updating.

The Help -> currently installed version info shows 2.24 7 for my installed app.

The explicit download version (from "Details" for the DAC) does show 2.25. However previously when I actually tried to use this explicit download version I got into real trouble, because it installed as a separate program/app, and thought itself UNLICENSED. Only the version installed from the MS store allowed me to run it without constantly stopping and telling me the trial version had expired.

There is no Forum location to download/install the current version. Presumably you're supposed to do it from the purchased licensed version from the MS store. But there doesn't seem to be an "update". I think if I uninstall the current 2.24.7 version (from Windows Settings Apps) and then get it again from the MS Store, that should work and hopefully I would now get the 2.25 version. But I don't want to have to re-customize everything from scratch all over again. I don't know if the current settings are retained across uninstall/reinstall.

The app itself doesn't include a "check for updates" feature, which would really seem like the best way to avoid all of this confusion. Self-install any current update, with the program itself obtaining the latest version from whatever source is appropriate.

This is a genuine licensed purchased version (and currently installed on several different Windows machines, since the MS Store understands that I "own" it and can install it on multiple of my machines), but I honestly don't know how to update it to 2.25.

Please tell me how I am supposed to updated the currently installed Neutron Player on any given machine?

[blaubär]

Please tell me how I am supposed to updated the currently installed Neutron Player on any given machine?

From time to time have a look into the Windows Store, until the update is available, then install.

[blaubär]

Adding Neutron Player to another new Windows machine. And I'm tryng to copy (if possible) my already completely customized and satisfactory setup from another machine... if that's possible.
[...]

should now be possible in the new Version 2.25.0

2.25.0 (10.2024):
* New:
- ability to Backup/Restore settings via Neutron Console (subscription)
- ability to create NeutronID via Settings - NeutronID - [+]
[...]

an FAQ with hints as how to do that is to appear soon.

I'm sorry to say so far no backup/restore has shown up ... I can create a NeutronID but how this is to help with backup/restore is unclear.

[DSperber]

Thank you very much for continuing your help here. I suspect the 2.25 update has probably been submitted to the MS Store for distribution but it takes time to get approved and published.

I'll just be patient. This isn't critical. I'm in a long-term project to upgrade the many Win10 machines I manage for friends and family to Win11. I wanted to install Neutron Player on these machines, and was just looking for a time-saver to do the same setup on all of them.

So, I'll just wait until 2.25 is available from the store. Good excuse to postpone this whole effort. I've already got it installed and properly customized on the handful of machines that are my own.

[blaubär]

okay, it seems a backup/restore for the settings isn't availabe yet ... feel free to ask neutronmp@gmail.com what this "ability to Backup/Restore settings via Neutron Console (subscription)" is supposed to mean.

[DSperber]

I can give the "trial version" (available from the DAC's "details -> software) a look-see. I have a "spare" Win10 machine I haven't put it on yet.

It claims to be the 2.25 version (albeit only in trial form), so we'll see if it does include the settings save/restore function as described.

Presumably eventually the MS Store will make the licensed 2.25 version available for real.

[DSperber]

Well, I did install that "trial" 2.25 version (available from the Software dropdown link in the "Details" for the DAC).

Unless the Export/Import of Settings is a secret hidden function, it doesn't seem to be plainly visible or obvious or available in the expected locations I would have guessed it to be placed. Yes, there is NeutronID now, but no export/import.

I will send an email as you suggest, just to get some explanation for why the README about changes in 2.25 says it's available, but it doesn't really appear to be.

[blaubär]

2.25.1 (11.2024):
[...]
* Improved and re-enabled Backup/Restore functionality via Neutron Console
(check FAQ how to backup/restore Neutron's settings: https://neutroncode.com/faq/73-backup-restore)

So, now we know it: we'll have to pay for the backup/restore

Backup/restore operations involve the use of the network server and its resources, therefore it is a paid service but at a very affordable price. You can subscribe for the backup/restore functionality for 1 month and do as many backup/restore operations as you need. It is possible to omit auto-renew, therefore you can subscribe again if you need to backup settings now and then restore them in a several months time.

[DSperber]

Interesting... and disappointing.

Turns out I've now done the install on a few machines, and it's really not that hard to re-customize. I've got it memorized, although it does take a little time to perform. I have a very basic setup that uses built-in sound hardware so there's really not much to do. And only one laptop uses the external DAC (using the "audio hardware" tweak), and that's already in and finished.

In other words I certainly don't feel any urgency or economically justified reason to pay monthly, be it one-time or monthly or every-so-often, for something I'm never going to touch again.

You already advised me where and how to extract the previously internal EQ settings and utilize them for NConfigurator to set up the external DAC. That's really where save/load the EQ setup is far more useful. And it already exists... for free, in the program itself (just like with pretty much all software products).

Thanks for the update.