[TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

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dastinger
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by dastinger » Sun May 26, 2019 12:56 pm

blaubär wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 11:51 am
dastinger wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:18 am
Do you think forcing 96/24 would make it output at that quality?
No, it won't. Samsung's version of Pie doesn't support 96 kHz. It cannot just take it as it is.
It will take take it, but then either up- or downsample it using its own mechanism for this.
If you want to make sure that a higher frequency is used and the upsampling is done by Neutron,
let Neutron upsample and put out a supported sampling rate, then the os will take this.
Alright, I will do that! Again, thank you so much for this, you have been of great help!

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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by henrywil » Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:35 am

Acoustic Research M2

With recommended settings Neutron resamples anything to 48000. What I see in Audio Hardware whatever content is playing.
DRV: AudioTrack (JNI) [LINE-OUT]
Frequency: 48000
Bits: 64(out: 16 int)
Latency: 240 (min: 21)

There is no options in Generic Driver
Frequency setting only list 48000, there is no other sampling rates

jesseinsf
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by jesseinsf » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:37 am

Why all of a sudden the "Hi-Rez Codec (Direct PCM) only does Maximum volume? How do I know the custom setting uses the Quad DAC in my LG-v30?

Mahir
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by Mahir » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:23 pm

I have a LG G7 thinQ running latest android v9. Which settings I must use for hi-res audio?

blaubär
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by blaubär » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:36 am

Mahir wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:23 pm
I have a LG G7 thinQ running latest android v9. Which settings I must use for hi-res audio?
Did you follow the advice in this topic ?
Could you provide information about your settings, e.g. screenshots of Settings > Audio Hardware ?
When you press the 3-dot-button on the playing-now-screen repeatedly you can gather information about the sampling rate and bit depth of input and output, what does it say there ?

Mahir
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by Mahir » Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:35 am

blaubär wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:36 am
Mahir wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:23 pm
I have a LG G7 thinQ running latest android v9. Which settings I must use for hi-res audio?
Did you follow the advice in this topic ?
Could you provide information about your settings, e.g. screenshots of Settings > Audio Hardware ?
When you press the 3-dot-button on the playing-now-screen repeatedly you can gather information about the sampling rate and bit depth of input and output, what does it say there ?
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It looks like it isnt that hires. Btw I raised the channel count just to try.

blaubär
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by blaubär » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:20 am

Mahir wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:35 am
It looks like it isnt that hires. Btw I raised the channel count just to try.
Sorry, I don't understand that.
And I cannot access the image. If you want to append a screenshot, save it on your device, then add it with the "Attachments" tab here. If you don't see it, switch to "Full Editor".

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Mahir
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by Mahir » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:40 am

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blaubär wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:20 am
Mahir wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:35 am
It looks like it isnt that hires. Btw I raised the channel count just to try.
Sorry, I don't understand that.
And I cannot access the image. If you want to append a screenshot, save it on your device, then add it with the "Attachments" tab here. If you don't see it, switch to "Full Editor".


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blaubär
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by blaubär » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:48 am

Yes, that's not high-res-output.

What about the settings in Settings > Audio Hardware ?
dmitrykos wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:29 pm
Since 1.97.0 version Neutron supports Hi-Res Audio output to the mobile devices which support it and have dedicated on-board DAC (ESS, XMOS, Qualcomm, ...) for Hi-Res Audio. The Hi-Res Audio must be supported by firmware of course. Minimum Android OS version is 4.4.

To make sure you have guaranteed Hi-Res Audio output (if device supports it) there are number of prerequisites in Neutron's settings -> Audio Hardware:

1) Generic Driver = ON
2) Generic Driver -> Hi-Res Codec = ON
3) Generic Driver -> Hi-Res Speaker = ON
4) DSP Effect (Device) = OFF
5) Low Latency = OFF
6) 32-bit Output (IEEE 754) = OFF

The easiest approach is just to reset all settings of Audio Hardware section to default (middle Undo button in the bottom of dialog).
And what about Settings > Audio Hardware > Frequency ? Do you have a choice there between several frequencies ? And can you perhaps choose a higher one ?

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blaubär
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Re: [TIP] Hi-Res Audio for Android devices

Post by blaubär » Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:07 pm

I noticed another thing : you use the speaker, not the headphones. While it should work with the speaker ( if Generic Driver -> Hi-Res Speaker = ON and the device and the os support this ), the chances are better for the line out with headphones - perhaps you could give that a try.

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( There may be people walking the earth who can actually hear the difference between high-res and not-high-res. But they can surely not do that using a smartphone speaker. )

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