64-bit Neutron version

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cxp
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by cxp » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:19 pm

New user here. For convenience purposes I have been entertaining true wireless earbuds but the SQ was awful in Tidal, Qobuz apps.

Onkyo HF was an improvement but the biggest improvement has been Neutron with the 64-bit processing enabled. Phone is iphone 11, earbuds Sennheiser True Momentum Wireless.

I am assuming the benefit with Neutron is more precise calculations and resampling that feed into Apple's AAC codec for bluetooth?

Without Neutron, bass is very poor quality with little to no harmonic integrity over bluetooth. With Neutron, fundamental/harmonics feel more natural across the board as well as improved instrument separation and general spaciousness of the image. Basically, more musical!

blaubär
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by blaubär » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:13 pm

cxp wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:19 pm
Onkyo HF was an improvement but the biggest improvement has been Neutron with the 64-bit processing enabled. Phone is iphone 11, earbuds Sennheiser True Momentum Wireless.
Do you hear a difference between Neutron with 64-bit-enabled and Neutron with 64-bit-not-enabled ?

Cde
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by Cde » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:33 am

Yes

scruffy1
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by scruffy1 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:52 pm

i have neutron on my android device, and really enjoy it

how do i get the full version on win10, given i already have a licence from android ?

it would be great to access the streaming via the htpc to use the dac attached to that source

blaubär
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by blaubär » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:19 pm

scruffy1 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:52 pm
i have neutron on my android device, and really enjoy it
how do i get the full version on win10, given i already have a licence from android ?
See here : buy
Windows: Microsoft Store
The purchase is done according standard Microsoft Store terms via the Microsoft Store client application. The license is valid for the unlimited number of downloads, installations and updates for the lifetime of the Microsoft account.
[...]
General: Purchase transfer from one platform to another
It is not possible to transfer purchase from one platform to another, app stores do not provide such possibility or interface to the app developers. Details are here.
That means you'll have to buy a license in the microsoft store.

blaubär
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by blaubär » Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:23 pm

scruffy1 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:52 pm
it would be great to access the streaming via the htpc to use the dac attached to that source
Could you elaborate ? What is "that source", which DAC do you mean ?

Alan
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by Alan » Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:47 am

As I have enabled 64bit audio feature and the battery usage of my "Fiio M11 Pro" player is high, may I know if I need to download the "Neutron Music Player (ARM64)" ver. 2.14.5 from your website to replace the App version 2.14.6 in which downloaded from Google Play"?
(I am using the Fiio M11 Pro with ARMv8 CPU) Thanks a lot.

scruffy1
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by scruffy1 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:04 am

blaubär wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:23 pm
scruffy1 wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:52 pm
it would be great to access the streaming via the htpc to use the dac attached to that source
Could you elaborate ? What is "that source", which DAC do you mean ?
htpc as the source (server files > small form factor i3 with win 10) > usb fed to a khadas tone board as dac, > to a nad d3020 > wharfedale 10.1's with a 10.gx subwoofer)

problem solved, as the latest win10 iteration can accept bluetooth audio stream from my android phone via a supplied windoze app, so i get to use the android version neutron as an ersatz remote control and streaming source for the server files and internet radio

perfect for what i wanted to do, which was easy access to internet radio that can benefit from the khadas

sasan3
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by sasan3 » Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:54 pm

Does using 64 bit processing on mp3 files and play it at 32 bit have any downside Like loss of perception/data/quality) cause most high resolution audios release at 24 bit depth

WitzyZed
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Re: 64-bit Neutron version

Post by WitzyZed » Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:00 am

sasan3 wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 7:54 pm
Does using 64 bit processing on mp3 files and play it at 32 bit have any downside Like loss of perception/data/quality) cause most high resolution audios release at 24 bit depth
Without unpacking a can of worms, I can not conceive of any downside to this.

Source file bit depth, in the case of MP3, is 16 bit on the face of it, but will be "processed" as 32 bit or 64 bit floating point.

If your output device does not support 24 or 32 bit integer output, there is a theoretical need for dithering / noise shaping. (But this is not specific for MP3, and largely depends on whether or not you use any DSP or instead just opt for bit-perfect profile)

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