Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

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Pcppps
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Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by Pcppps » Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:16 pm

I just downloaded the app and like the sound a lot.

But having trouble with volume control.

First, the volume control is not under "media" but under "cast". So my earphone gets very loud and I have to set the volume to 1 or 3 the most.

Second, when there is a phone call the volume suddenly gets very low.

Any method to fix? Thx

blaubär
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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by blaubär » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:21 pm

Pcppps wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:16 pm
First, the volume control is not under "media" but under "cast". So my earphone gets very loud and I have to set the volume to 1 or 3 the most.
I don't quite understand. There are three volume sliders in Neutron which you can use to control the volume, see https://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... amp#p13607 . But I think you are speaking of something else ?
Do you have enabled Settings > Audio Hardware > Direct USB Access ? And therein the option Volume Control ?

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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by blaubär » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:27 pm

Pcppps wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:16 pm
Second, when there is a phone call the volume suddenly gets very low.
I think that this is dealt with in Settings > Audio Hardware > Audio Focus, also see https://developer.android.com/guide/top ... udio-focus . I'd guess that if you disable this option the volume might not be affected by an incoming phone call. Try and tell us if it worked !

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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by Pcppps » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:49 am

Thx. I chose linear jn vilume control and use -15 in preamp abd seems fuxed niw.

blaubär wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:21 pm
Pcppps wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:16 pm
First, the volume control is not under "media" but under "cast". So my earphone gets very loud and I have to set the volume to 1 or 3 the most.
I don't quite understand. There are three volume sliders in Neutron which you can use to control the volume, see https://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... amp#p13607 . But I think you are speaking of something else ?
Do you have enabled Settings > Audio Hardware > Direct USB Access ? And therein the option Volume Control ?

blaubär
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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by blaubär » Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:51 am

Pcppps wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:49 am
Thx. I chose linear jn vilume control and use -15 in preamp abd seems fuxed niw.
Sorry, I'm too old for that lingo :D ... solved or not solved ?

Pcppps
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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by Pcppps » Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:44 am

Solved. Thx a lot
blaubär wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:51 am
Pcppps wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:49 am
Thx. I chose linear jn vilume control and use -15 in preamp abd seems fuxed niw.
Sorry, I'm too old for that lingo :D ... solved or not solved ?

Pcppps
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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by Pcppps » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:19 am

Excuse me. After using for a few times, I find out that the hardware gain doesnt work usually and I have to adjust the gain in blue color. My usb dac has a lightning cable and I am using an adaptor. Thx
blaubär wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:51 am
Pcppps wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:49 am
Thx. I chose linear jn vilume control and use -15 in preamp abd seems fuxed niw.
Sorry, I'm too old for that lingo :D ... solved or not solved ?

blaubär
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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by blaubär » Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:18 am

Do you have enabled Direct USB Access, and there checked Volume Control ?

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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by Pcppps » Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:02 am

Yes I have. And I have chosen linear scale under volume control.

Regarding the hardware gain, it gives me the same volume no matter which level it is, even zero.

If I disallow neon access to the usb dac then the hardware gain works but my output becomes androids default...ie. 16 bit
blaubär wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:18 am
Do you have enabled Direct USB Access, and there checked Volume Control ?


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Re: Volume problem with Sony xperia 1 with usb dac (cipher cable from audeze)

Post by blaubär » Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:42 am

Pcppps wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:02 am
And I have chosen linear scale under volume control.
What do you mean by "linear scale under volume control" ?

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