Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

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tpk
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Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by tpk » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:54 am

On my Fiio M15 I'm trying to play Native DSD256 but Neutron appears to be converting it to PCM. On the playing now screen it has the format as DPCM256. In Audio Hardware I've selected DSD over PCM and within that selected Native DSD. The FiiO M15 should be able to play DSD up to 256. Is Neutron unable to play Native DSD256 on the M15?

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by blaubär » Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:37 pm

Could you provide screenshots of the input and output on the playing now ? On my S9 the input with DSD looks as follows :

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Output in PCM looks as follows :

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The S9 cannot process native DSD. If I try anyway it shows DSD but I don't hear the music.

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So it looks as if you hadn't switched on DSD - if you had and the device didn't support it then you should see it in the info bar but hear no music. Neutron should switch it on no matter what.

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by tpk » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:43 pm

Here is a screenshot of the playing now screen:
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Here are my audio hardware settings:
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Here are the settings within DSD over PCM:
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The DSD256 files play perfectly within the FiiO music app that comes with the player. It would be nice to have them play within Neutron.

Thanks for any help you can give.

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by tpk » Sat Jun 20, 2020 2:50 pm

Here's another screenshot of the playing now screen after I press the three dots on the right hand side of the screen.
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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by blaubär » Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:59 pm

Did you enable the 32-bit output ? If yes, could you try without ? Another thing to try : set everything back to defaults, then try again with native DSD. If nothing helps I suggest you contact neutronmp@gmail.com .

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by tpk » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:34 pm

Where in the menus is 32 bit output enabled/disabled?

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by blaubär » Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:00 pm

Settings > Audio Hardware > 32-bit Output ( IEEE 754 )

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by blaubär » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:08 pm

any success ?

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by Lavi Jaat 1232 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:32 am

blaubär wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:08 pm
any success ?
AFAIK there are seperate APKs of Neutron for iBasso and Fiio DAPs for DSD Playback.

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Re: Fiio M15 and Native DSD256

Post by blaubär » Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:33 am

Should work now in version 2.17.0
* New:
[...]
- native DSD256 for Fiio M15
[...]

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