Transferring to and playing on iOs without iTunes

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pholly
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Re: Transferring to and playing on iOs without iTunes

Post by pholly » Fri May 06, 2022 11:11 am

blaubär wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 5:10 am
pholly wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 1:52 am
if it doesn't have an easy way to put music in the app.
It has : buy the music on iTunes, download it onto the device with Apple Music, Neutron can access it then easily.
pholly wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 1:52 am
I hope Apple will give me a refund.
For the app or the device :D ? You see, certain aspects of Apple's proprietary platform are generally known, and no third party can change them, so either you comply with that or you'd better use another platform.
What a joke, this has nothing to do with Apple, [ mod : offensive contents removed, user warned ] There are lots of free apps that handle these things much better, I was just foolish enough to think a paid app which such a relatively high price would be functional and have a usable interface but it's actually worse than the free apps I've tried.

MotleyG
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Re: Transferring to and playing on iOs without iTunes

Post by MotleyG » Fri May 06, 2022 1:09 pm

pholly wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 11:11 am
What a joke, this has nothing to do with Apple, [ mod : offensive contents removed, user warned ] There are lots of free apps that handle these things much better, I was just foolish enough to think a paid app which such a relatively high price would be functional and have a usable interface but it's actually worse than the free apps I've tried.
I have no idea what apps you have that manage external file storage any differently than how Neutron does it. You have an Apple device but don't want to use iTunes to manage it. This is 100% an Apple directive from the mother ship. And this is the same way all other apps with hi-res file capability manage it as well. If you don't like that option, perhaps you are more suited to an Android device - but a warning that Google is going down the same path with a very restricted file access as of Android 12.

pholly
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Re: Transferring to and playing on iOs without iTunes

Post by pholly » Fri May 06, 2022 7:43 pm

MotleyG wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 1:09 pm
pholly wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 11:11 am
What a joke, this has nothing to do with Apple, [ mod : offensive contents removed, user warned ] There are lots of free apps that handle these things much better, I was just foolish enough to think a paid app which such a relatively high price would be functional and have a usable interface but it's actually worse than the free apps I've tried.
I have no idea what apps you have that manage external file storage any differently than how Neutron does it. You have an Apple device but don't want to use iTunes to manage it. This is 100% an Apple directive from the mother ship. And this is the same way all other apps with hi-res file capability manage it as well. If you don't like that option, perhaps you are more suited to an Android device - but a warning that Google is going down the same path with a very restricted file access as of Android 12.

So you're saying that the reason this app can't download music from my NAS or a cloud service is simply because it's a Hi-Res player? Unless this is a rule of some sort with the App Store, there's no difference between downloading a lossles FLAC file and a Hi-Res FLAC file other than file size. Flacbox & CloudBeats can easily download files from numerous sources. Also, Onkyo's Hi-Res player can download songs from iCloud so I don't think it's a limitation imposed by Apple.

MotleyG
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Re: Transferring to and playing on iOs without iTunes

Post by MotleyG » Fri May 06, 2022 8:47 pm

pholly wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 7:43 pm
So you're saying that the reason this app can't download music from my NAS or a cloud service is simply because it's a Hi-Res player? Unless this is a rule of some sort with the App Store, there's no difference between downloading a lossles FLAC file and a Hi-Res FLAC file other than file size. Flacbox & CloudBeats can easily download files from numerous sources. Also, Onkyo's Hi-Res player can download songs from iCloud so I don't think it's a limitation imposed by Apple.
It isn't because Neutron is a hi-res player. But for anything hi-res that your friendly neighbourhood Apple Music can't play (FLAC, DSD), your iPhone by default doesn't natively support and sync wirelessly. So back to Apple to thank for making those limitations for us. In the cases of the apps you cite as examples, you still need to upload files from your PC to the cloud, just so you can download them back to your phone (for offline use of course). But your complaint was moving the files to your phone first place would take too long if you had to connect to your PC and use iTunes. This is just as time consuming, and not data friendly either. Kind of moot in my opinion, as nowhere in the feature list for Neutron does it mention or promote playing anything via the cloud (yet) anyhow.

But that is why there are 100's of media player apps out there. Looks like you are on at least 4 with the ones listed above plus Neutron. There were probably many more that in the end weren't worth the time and energy to download, from my own experience on IOS. Few if any have the same audio engine to sound as good as Neutron though. And certainly at the modest price compared to those few others that do sound good, it is more than fair value. If that was what you were looking for at least.

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