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additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:35 am
by blaubär
Situation : Neutron can automatically switch between crossfeed and surround depending on the type of device used for output. Devices that have a microphone are regarded as headphones. For these devices crossfeed is activated, all other devices get surround.
Problem : there are headphones without a microphone
Proposal : add a further option to the existing auto-switch-option to make the distinction not depending the existence of a microphone but depending on the output device
Example : one could then use crossfeed for line-out and bluetooth but use surround for the speakers
Alternative : if that's too much of a bother, remove the "DITHER" button from the eq screen ( as probably nobody needs to change that anyway ), and make both crossfeed and surround permanently available there ( and of course make sure that they aren't both activated together
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Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:39 pm
by mylo636
if that's too much of a bother, remove the "DITHER" button from the eq screen ( as probably nobody needs to change that anyway ), .......
Wow. I think that I'm not the only man who switched off the dithering.
Example: I hear old music or have really old recordings, I prefer to switch off dithering in many cases.
It could be that I'm wrong. In this case told me please.
Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:50 pm
by blaubär
mylo636 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:39 pm
if that's too much of a bother, remove the "DITHER" button from the eq screen ( as probably nobody needs to change that anyway ), .......
Wow. I think that I'm not the only man who switched off the dithering.
Example: I hear old music or have really old recordings, I prefer to switch off dithering in many cases.
It could be that I'm wrong. In this case told me please.
Do you hear a difference ?
Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:05 am
by mylo636
That's too much. I took an app.
I guess so.
However, I also do not want to rule out that I imagine something ......
First of all, I hear that the medium to high frequencies are slightly reduced, which significantly reduces the noise when I switch off 'dither'. but only for really older recordings, so actually post-digital.
It's a subtle difference, but I can hear it .
However, it is clear to me that, especially with such things as hearing, large differences are not uncommon among different people.
I have been busy with music for half my life and do not want to make the mistake of excluding another opinion.
Brighten my mind ....
I'm glad to have found someone who maybe can.
Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:15 am
by mylo636
In addition:
Just listening to an old 'Doors' record. Not remastered! What I also call post-digital
I hear clear differences there .
Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:07 am
by blaubär
mylo636 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:15 am
In addition:
Just listening to an old 'Doors' record. Not remastered! What I also call post-digital
I hear clear differences there .
Ok, then that's an argument to keep the DITHER easily switchable.
mylo636 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:05 am
First of all, I hear that the medium to high frequencies are slightly reduced, which significantly reduces the noise when I switch off 'dither'. but only for really older recordings, so actually post-digital.
Yes, dithering adds noise. Older recordings sometimes don't have frequencies > 8 kHz or so, so there the difference would be most easily detectable.
Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2020 6:54 pm
by blaubär
mylo636 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:15 am
In addition:
Just listening to an old 'Doors' record. Not remastered! What I also call post-digital
I hear clear differences there .
I had tried to hear the difference between dithering on and off, but didn't succedd. I then obtained a track contaning nothing but silence, still no effect. Just now I found out why this didn't work : I had Settings > Audio Hardware > DSP Effect (Device) disabled, that led to 32-bit output, so that there was no need for Neutron to dither at all. Enabling that option resulted in 16-bit output, so that might show the effect ! I'll have to wait for a quiet hour to try ...
Re: additional criteria for auto-switch dsp
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:49 pm
by blaubär