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About TAK files with their cue files

Post by meowsan » Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:28 pm

Sorry for bothering! :)
I have bought your player but it just has a problem.
Did you know TAK file? The player cutting the cue with TAK
doesn't present so exact as FLAC. One track's beginning is often put into its last track's ending.
I wonder how to fix the problem.
Thank you for reading in advance.

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by blaubär » Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:25 pm

meowsan wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:28 pm
Did you know TAK file? [...] One track's beginning is often put into its last track's ending.
So you have encoded music with TAK, which isn't listed as supported by Neutron, but which Neutron nevertheless plays, albeit imperfectly due to involuntary crossfade, and you didn't accidentily activate crossfade.

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by meowsan » Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:57 am

Sorry for seeing your answer late!
I immediately try your method but it doesn't work out.
Honestly,I also met this problem on the poweramp app and his answer is that the music format causes player encodes the cue files incorrectly.
And I've learnt that TAK isn't supported by neutron.
Could you give another method?

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by blaubär » Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:07 am

Could you describe the issue ? You want to play one tak-file, and the tracks are defined by a cue-file ? Or do you want to play several tak-files ?

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by meowsan » Wed Jun 08, 2022 5:38 am

Sorry! I will try my best to describe it clearly!
I got a tak format file undivided with its cue file.
The player can discern it but can't split correctly.
But FLAC files don't have such problem.
That's the main problem!
Thank you for reading! :)

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by blaubär » Wed Jun 08, 2022 6:28 am

Okay, then let's move this to the development forum and propose to fully support this format.

Situation: it seems that TAK-files aren't fully supported
Problem: Neutron plays this format, but cue-files don't work properly
Proposal: fully support TAK-files

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by MotleyG » Wed Jun 08, 2022 1:52 pm

meowsan wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:28 pm
Sorry for bothering! :)
I have bought your player but it just has a problem.
Did you know TAK file? The player cutting the cue with TAK
doesn't present so exact as FLAC. One track's beginning is often put into its last track's ending.
I wonder how to fix the problem.
Thank you for reading in advance.
There is a good comparison on Hydrogen Audio here;
https://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?t ... comparison

I think the big issues is the support, as currently listed under the cons. Until TAK gains some form of hardware support, it will remain difficult to have the software side pick it up as well. I would think the development resources costs will be the deciding factor. I'm not doubting the efficiency of this format, but since it so far has barely any advantages over the current reigning lossless champion FLAC, it may be an uphill battle. Even the Apple supported ALAC is a distant second for most.

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Re: About TAK files with their cue files

Post by Tapio » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:47 pm

Development into tak makes no sense. Veeeeery very very few people use it. Like 100 on the whole globe? And it no more has a size advantage over flac. I converted all my tak files to flac mybe 3 years ago.

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