Refresh confusion

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brimley
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Refresh confusion

Post by brimley » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:15 pm

Hi All,
Just purchased neutron for Android and I'm trying to set up my shared music dir of my wd my cloud (SMB) as a source.
Neutron on my two phones have wildly different scan results for files and directories, both wrong.

The source refresh confuses me, there's the top refresh on change which is self explanatory but then each source has a red button, does that determine if the change check applies to that source?
Also the discs/lines icon can be white,red,yellow, what does that mean?
Guess white means done, yellow means scanning, red means error of some sort?
There's a red progress bar along the top which doesn't seem to indicate much other than busy..?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

blaubär
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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by blaubär » Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:19 pm

Have a look at Re: 256 Songs in Folder only containing 16 Tracks
You can activate/decativate existing sources by a short to the left of their entry. Deactivated sources won't refresh, their contents won't be shown in the library. Tap again to activate.
From time to time a full rescan on a source might be advisable - long press (in the middle of the entry), then "Scan".
You also can switch the Refresh-button off, then the contents of this source will stay in the library, but the source won't be refreshed.

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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by blaubär » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:16 pm


brimley
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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by brimley » Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:48 pm

Ok, thanks for the reply. I've been experimenting and things just get weirder. Since my big shared directory wasn't scanning as expected, I made a small shared dir with just 3 artists and albums in sub directories, so not much.
I added this as a source and it scans successfully but tells me there are no music files. ???

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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by blaubär » Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:19 am

brimley wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 11:48 pm
I made a small shared dir with just 3 artists and albums in sub directories, so not much.
I added this as a source and it scans successfully but tells me there are no music files.
Did you delete the other source ? Or are the files also included in that ? Some screenshots might help.

brimley
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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by brimley » Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:34 am

I deleted my main source - the big shared folder, I've given up on that for now.

I'm left with my SD card source (which seems to scan just fine in neutron) and a small smb shared directory with 3 sub dirs, approx 700 mp3 files
in total.
(My VLC and Samba apps can browse and play big and small shares with no problems.)
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brimley
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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by brimley » Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:53 am

I should add, I don't want full scans by album, metatags etc, all I want is to browse my folder structure and click play. Unfortunately, I suspect I don't have that simpler option.., the scan has to work.
I put in a developer suggestion for a simple network browse/play option.

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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by blaubär » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:51 pm

Yes, there's little alternative with Neutron. You could of course create multiple sources for subfolders of the big folder if it has any and if these are big enough to justify the effort but small enough so that they can be scanned in a reasonable time.

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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by brimley » Mon Feb 01, 2021 12:57 pm

My small test directory share only has a few files but neutron can't even scan that. 0 files found (no errors either).
I have spent days on this often into the early hours, I just want to play a network file that other apps play just fine.
I could weep...

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Re: Refresh confusion

Post by blaubär » Mon Feb 01, 2021 2:49 pm

I suggest you contact neutronmp@gmail.com , they'll know how to analyze this.

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